Section II -- "JUICE NEWS"
Part 1
Prostaglandin – PGF2 – Lutalyse
REPORTS 1 + 2
There is quite a bit of interest in PGF2 right nowise I will clear a few things up first. I get my Lutalyse from a friend who is vet, I can only get personal use for the moment but will look into things further if there is a demand, this is a big if? I don’t even know if it’s on any banned lists in
My own country let alone the U.S.A. My stats are as follows on the 13/01/99: weight: 221 pounds fat: round about 10/11% height: 6ft 2in I will start of with 2mg a day and build up too 8mg.
As a few of you have shown interest in my real life trials with PGF2, I will report every week and tell you how I’m getting on. This report is fairly long but I hope it helps others who might be thinking of using PGF2. These are my results so take them for what they are. I started on the 13/01/99 with my first injection of 1/2 a mg of diniprost (pgf2); each 1-ml of Lutalyse contains 5mg of diniprost (pgf2). I used a 22Ga*3/4 needle, you should use insulin pins, which I will use when I get some. As with any new drug that you inject, I was careful not to use too much just in case I had a bad reaction to it, also I was shitting myself just like the first time with DNP! I injected into the bicep so I would know how painful this stuff really is. As soon as I started to inject, the pain started. If you could imagine your most painful injection, this is what it’s like every time you use it. I had no bad reactions or the side effects, so I thought "that what does not kill you makes you stronger". The next day I intended to use 8mg,so I started with 2mg in each leg, 10 minutes after injection I started to feel my chest and throat tighten so I used my Ventilin inhaler and this really did help. It still was not a pleasant feeling but I had it under control. A few moments later, the
muscle spasms started in my intestines and bowels. The pain was not too bad, but I didn’t like the short stabs of pain my abdominal area was giving me so I quickly took one of my anti-spasmodic diarrhea tablets. These started to kick in 10 minutes later and all you get is a dull sensation of the
pain. I have used it for 4 days now and I have not had the shits once. All you get is a little bit more wind. If your going to use pgf2, I would recommend using the drugs I have stated. They really worked wonders for me! As for training I didn’t feel it effected me at all apart from the fucking great pumps it gives you. Your muscles feel nice and hard all day even when you wake up, just like a good cycle of steroids would give you. I have been on for 4 days now, so I’ll give you my opinion; both-- good and bad.
The bad side is the side effects, which I dealt with pretty well; the worst problem is the amount of injection you have to do in a day. I solved this by injecting 2 or 3ml at a time in each muscle, say for example you injected in your legs. Do 2 or 3ml in each leg. This saves time and pain, because I don’t want to be a slave to the needle. I found its best to inject first thing in the morning and last thing at night when you have not got much food in your digestive system. Any injections in the day are a bonus, you have to be practical about this because most of us have to go work in the day and it’s hard to find time to inject. Some might say you are not going to get the best out of pgf2 doing it this way but this is the practical way. If you can stand injecting 7 or 8 times a day fine, but you must like the fucking pain, because this stuff makes your muscle throb with pain for about an hour, and then it goes away after a day. I felt the rise in my body temperature and it did feel like I was on DNP. But this only lasted for about an hour. Maybe my temperature was still
elevated for a few hours more but this was no problem. PGF2 has got to go along way to beat DNP in the race for the nastiest drug of all time, but its close. The reason I could inject so much into my system at once was because I was using my drug stack to help negate the side effects. The good side has yet to be seen but I am very confident this stuff will work. Remember I’m still learning every day!
TRANSDERMAL PGF2a
The experiment I’m doing now is to use PGF2 transdermally. The insert to Lutalyse (pgf2) states that you should take extreme caution when handling Lutalyse as it can easily be absorbed through the skin. So I thought that maybe it could be applied to the skin without injecting. But as PGF2 has a half-life of around 10 minutes, it might not reach your muscles in time to do its work. But maybe it would be a better fat burner when applied transdermally, as PGF2 is supposed to kill fat cells when it comes in contact with them. I’m applying 2mg of PGF2 with Duchaines "Yo-Be-Lean"; I’ve been rubbing this mixture into my abdominal area until it all disperses. When I apply the mixture the area becomes very hot for 10 to 20 minutes, yohimbe and PGF2 seems like its working and the theory sounds pretty good but I will tell you if its worked after I have given it about a month. If anyone has any better ways to improve this mixture in any way please post here and
tell me what you think. Maybe it will turn out to be a load of bull but who knows?
REPORT 3
After nearly two weeks on, I’m very, very pleased with the results. I’m not taking any steroids or
creatine, and I have not changed my diet in any way. My actual body weight gain has been nearly 5 pounds of muscle as far as I can tell. What with the constant pump I get, my overall appearance has improved greatly. I am using up to 2mg in each body part at a time for a total of 8mg a day. I have tried going higher but 2mg at a time are my limit in any one sight of injection. The body parts that have been hit the most have improved to no end. The improvement is ver visible. This stuff does not take weeks or months to work, it starts right away, and if you can live with the side effects this is worth trying. On the subject of transdermal PGF2a, I am still not sure the PGF2a gets to the muscle before it’s out of the body. This is why I sent e-mail to Dharkham asking this same question. I’m still waiting for a reply. If anyone wants any info on how to use or obtain PGF2a, e-mail me and I will try to answer you.
REPORT 4
To recap things; on the 13/01/99 I started using PGF2a, my starting body weight was 221 pounds. After nearly 2 weeks of use, I was up 5 pounds. My report follows from here. As of 31/01/99 my body weight is 238 pounds, that’s 17 pounds of body weight gain in 17 days! As fucking amazing as it sounds, I began to notice all of this weight was not muscle, but a slight retention of water under the skin. I still got those great pumps you get from using pgf2a, maybe this is why? For the last two weeks, I had been using 10mg of pgf2a a day. The side effects seem to becoming less and less every time I use it. Or maybe I do not notice it so much? I experimented with a few
things as well, such as injecting a body part in the morning and training it that same night. I had no problems with this at all, if anything, I got a better work out because I could feel the muscle better. I’m not saying it does not hurt but it’s a pain I can live with and if you cannot stand a bit of pain in your workouts, then don’t use pgf2a, simple. I also injected straight after training and
still had no problems with the pain, these sensations only last about an hour anyway. I feel this is the best way to take pgf2a as your getting this growth promoter in the place where it’s needed the most, in the trained muscle. This is what I found and the next man might have different results but I found it OK. Other observations that I noticed apart from the slight water retention (maybe this is a one off and will not happen to you) was that it gave me amazingly hard erections, not a bad side effect if you ask me! I know Dharkham states in his article that people using steroids and pgf2a have to cut back on their poundage but, because I have been off for quite awhile now, my strength gains seemed to increase with pgf2a use.
All right, this is where the fun begins. On the 31/01/99 I decided to go on a weeks diet to see what actual muscle gains I had made. I went on the loose theory that if all the weight I had gained was mostly water; I would have a body weight under that than which I had started on 13/01/99. When I diet, I go for it 100%. I use everything in my power to lose those pounds of fat. Here is the list of supplements that I used:
400MG OF DNP EVERY NIGHT BEFORE BED.
YO BE LEAN+5MG OF PGF2A RUBBED ON MY ABS AND LOWER BACK EVERY NIGHT (THIS
REALLY DID VISIBLY WORK IN MY OPINION).
E/C STACK TWICE ADAY WITHOUT THE ASPIRIN (THIS HARMS THE EFECTIVENESS OF
THE PGF2A).
AND THE GREAT NEW DIET BY "ANIMAL"--ANIMALOBOLICS, IN A NUTSHELL YOU TRAIN
THE NIGHT BEFORE THEN RELOAD WITH CARBS STRAIGHT AFTER YOUR WORKOUT, THEN CARB DEPLETE UNTIL THE NEXT NIGHT. ONLY TAKING PROTEIN AND FATS. NOT EVER RAISING YOUR INSULIN LEVELS SO YOU KEEP IN LIPOSIS.
If you want more info on this fucking brilliant way to diet look on the "underground library message board", it’s well worth the read. And I cannot possibly do justice to it in a few lines of words. All right let’s get back to the diet. I weighed myself this morning and had a very pleasant surprise. I scaled in at 228 pounds of lean body weight. As I had hardly any carbs in my system or the water weight, which comes with carb stores, I had gained 7 pounds of lean body mass since my pgf2a experiment. So when I ingest carbs again and rehydrate my muscles, this figure will go
up. I am very, very pleased with the look that pgf2a has given me. I will continue to use pgf2a to gain muscle and hardness. I cannot wait to try a mild cycle with this stuff; God knows how much muscle you can gain? I will report back next issue, as I do not know if I will do another weeks diet
or not. I only intended to do one week but the ease of animals diet has made me want more. It’s the best diet I have been on ever! I’m still working on a new supplement to take with your pgf2a which stops calcium leaks in your muscles which should equate to less muscle being broken down when you train. See ya
THE ENGLISHMAN.
Part 2
DNP MY WAY
My personal experience with a DNP cycle
INTRODUCION
Hi there everyone. How y’all? Hope everybody’s as fine as can be. C’mon rise and shine. Don’t despair if something’s wrong in your life. Just do your best to make things better and you’ll see that the sun will come out shining again! (Doesn’t that sound like a dorky introduction? Well, I really meant it anyway.)
So, what this article is really all about is that I wanted to share my DNP experiences with anybody who bothered to read. I know there are a lot of questions going around about this chemical right now and I think it’s only fair that now that I have gone through a cycle, I share my "knowledge" with you guys out there because much of your questions and trepidation are the same as what I had and went through when I was deciding whether to take the dreaded DNP or not. I hope that at least someone out their finds this article as useful as I intended it to be. If you have any queries, disagreements and information about this or any other bodybuilding subject of interest please feel free to email me at my addy, which I stuck to the end of this article. I will try to help out any way I can.
BACK TO SCHOOL AGAIN
The Chemical Part of It and the Health Hazards Involved
If there is anybody of you out there that thinks this section sucks please feel free to go on to the next section which contains the real world info about DNP. I just included this section for the more scientifically-minded and conscientious guys who want to know all they can about the stuff that’s gonna go in their gut or in their butts. It contains info about DNP and the officially cited hazards that can result from exposure to it in industrial places (which is were all the DNP is supposed to be anyway - what the hell is it doing in your kitchen?) So here we go.
HAZARD SUMMARY
2,4-Dinitrophenol can effect you when breathed in and by passing through your skin.
2,4-Dinitrophenol can cause reproductive damage. Handle with extreme caution.
2,4-Dinitrophenol is a FLAMMABLE LIQUID and a FIRE HAZARD.
Contact can irritate the skin. Long term exposure may cause dermatitis.
2,4-Dinitrophenol can irritate the eyes, and may cause clouding of the eye lenses (cataracts).
Breathing 2,4-Dinitrophenol can irritate the nose and throat.
High or repeated exposure can affect the nervous system causing nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, convulsions and even death.
2,4-Dinitrophenol may damage the liver and kidneys.
IDENTIFICATION
2,4-Dinitrophenol is a yellow crystalline (sand-like) solid but is often found in a solution. It is used in dyes, photo developers, explosives, and as a preservative of lumber.
REASON FOR CITATION
2,4-Dinitrophenol is on the Hazardous Substance List because it is cited by EPA and DOT.
HOW TO DETERMINE IF YOU ARE BEING EXPOSED
Exposure to hazardous substances should be routinely evaluated. This may include collecting personal and area air samples. You can obtain copies of sampling results from your employer. You have a legal right to this information under OSHA 1910.20. If you think you are experiencing any work-related health problems, see a doctor trained to recognize occupational diseases. Take this Fact Sheet with you.
WORKPLACE EXPOSURE LIMITS
No occupational exposure limits have been established for 2,4- Dinitrophenol. This does not mean that this substance is not harmful. Safe work practices should always be followed.
It should be recognized that 2,4-Dinitrophenol can be absorbed through your skin, thereby increasing your exposure.
2,4-Dinitrophenol may be a teratogen in humans. All contact with this chemical should be reduced to the lowest possible level.
WAYS OF REDUCING EXPOSURE
Where possible, enclose operations and use local exhaust ventilation at the site of chemical release. If local exhaust ventilation or enclosure is not used, respirators should be worn.
Post hazard and warning information in the work area. In addition, as part of an ongoing education and training effort, communicate all information on the health and safety hazards of 2,4-Dinitrophenol to potentially exposed workers.
Wear protective work clothing.
Wash thoroughly immediately after exposure to 2,4- Dinitrophenol and at the end of the workshift.
This Fact Sheet is a summary source of information of all potential and most severe health hazards that may result from exposure. Duration of exposure, concentration of the substance and other factors will affect your susceptibility to any of the potential effects described below.
HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION
Acute Health Effects
The following acute (short-term) health effects may occur immediately or shortly after exposure to 2,4-Dinitrophenol:
2,4-Dinitrophenol can irritate the skin and eyes.
Breathing 2,4-Dinitrophenol can irritate the nose and throat.
Exposure to 2,4-Dinitrophenol cause fatigue, thirst, sweating, headache and weakness. It may also cause anxiety and excitement.
Chronic Health Effects
The following chronic (long-term) health effects can occur at some time after exposure to 2,4-Dinitrophenol and can last for months or years:
Cancer Hazard
2,4-Dinitrophenol may cause mutations (genetic changes) in living cells. Whether or not it poses a cancer or reproductive hazard needs further study.
2,4-Dinitrophenol has not been tested for its ability to cause cancer in animals.
Reproductive Hazard
2,4-Dinitrophenol may damage the developing fetus.
2,4-Dinitrophenol has not been tested for its ability to adversely affect reproduction.
Other Long-Term Effects
Exposure to 2,4-Dinitrophenol can cause dermatitis. Clouding of the eye lenses (cataracts) may occur after a long exposure.
High or repeated exposure can effect the nervous system causing nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, headache, anxiety, weakness, convulsions and even death.
2,4-Dinitrophenol may damage the liver and kidneys.
MEDICAL
Medical Testing
If symptoms develop or overexposure is suspected, the following may be useful:
Liver and kidney function tests.
Exam of the eyes.
Evaluation by a qualified allergist, including careful exposure history and special testing, may help diagnose skin allergy.
Any evaluation should include a careful history of past and present symptoms with an exam. Medical tests that look for damage already done are not a substitute for controlling exposure.
Request copies of your medical testing. You have a legal right to this information under OSHA 1910.20.
WORKPLACE CONTROLS AND PRACTICES
Unless a less toxic chemical can be substituted for a hazardous substance, ENGINEERING CONTROLS are the most effective way of reducing exposure. The best protection is to enclose operations and/or provide local exhaust ventilation at the site of chemical release. Isolating operations can also reduce exposure. Using respirators or protective equipment is less effective than the controls mentioned above, but is sometimes necessary.
In evaluating the controls present in your workplace, consider:
how hazardous the substance is,
how much of the substance is released into the workplace and
whether harmful skin or eye contact could occur. Special controls should be in place for highly toxic chemicals or when significant skin, eye, or breathing exposures is possible.
In addition, the following control are recommended:
Where possible, automatically transfer 2,4-Dinitrophenol from drums or other storage containers to process containers.
Before entering a confined space where 2,4-Dinitrophenol may be present, check to make sure that an explosive concentration does not exist.
Good WORK PRACTICES can help to reduce hazardous exposures. The following work practices are recommended:
Workers whose clothing has been contaminated by 2,4- Dinitrophenol should change into clean clothing promptly.
Individuals who have been informed of the hazards of exposure to 2,4- Dinitrophenol should launder contaminated work clothes.
Eye wash fountains should be provided in the immediate work area for emergency use.
If there is the possibility of skin exposure, emergency shower facilities should be provided.
On skin contact with 2,4-Dinitrophenol, immediately wash or shower to remove the chemical. At the end of the workshift, wash any areas of the body that may have contacted 2,4- Dinitrophenol, whether or not known skin contact has occurred.
Do not eat, smoke, or drink where 2,4-Dinitrophenol is handled, processed, or stored, since the chemical can be swallowed. Wash hands carefully before eating or smoking.
For dust powder use a vacuum or a wet method to reduce dust during clean up. DO NOT DRY SWEEP.
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
WORKPLACE CONTROLS ARE BETTER THAN PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
However, for some jobs (such as outside work, confined space entry, jobs done only once in a while, or jobs done while workplace controls are being installed), personal protective equipment may be appropriate.
The following recommendations are only guidelines and may not apply to every situation.
Clothing
Avoid skin contact with 2,4-Dinitrophenol. Wear protective gloves and clothing. Safety equipment suppliers/manufacturers can provide recommendations on the most protective glove/clothing material for your operation.
All protective clothing (suites, gloves, footwear, and headgear) should be clean, available each day, and put on before work.
Eye Protection
Wear splash-proof chemical goggles and face shield when working with liquid, unless full facepiece respiratory protection is worn.
Wear dust-proof goggles and face shield when working with powders or dust, unless full facepiece respiratory protection is worn.
Respiratory Protection
IMPROPER USE OF RESPIRATORS IS DANGEROUS.
Such equipment should only be used if the employer has a written program that takes into account workplace conditions; requirements for worker training, respirator fit testing and medical exams, as described in OSHA 1910.134.
Engineering controls must be effective to ensure that exposure to 2,4-Dinitrophenol does not occur.
Where the potential exists for exposure to 2,4-Dinitrophenol, use a MSHA/NIOSH approved supplied-air respirator with a full facepiece operated in the positive pressure mode or with a full facepiece, hood, or helmet in the continuous flow mode, or use a MSHA/NIOSH approved self-contained breathing apparatus with a full facepiece operated in pressure-demand or other positive pressure mode.
Common Name: 2,4-Dinitrophenol
DOT Number: UN 1599 (Dinitrophenol solution); UN 0076 (Dry or wetted with less than 15% water); UN 1320 (Dinitrophenol, wet with at least 15% water) DOT Emergency Guide codes: 57,36,46
CAS Number: 51-28-5
Hazard rating NJDOH NFPA
Flammability 3 Not Rated
Reactivity 0 Not Rated
FLAMMABLE
POISONOUS GASES ARE PRODUCED IN FIRE CONTAINERS MAY EXPLODE IN FIRE
SOLID DINITROPHENOL MAY EXPLODE
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Hazard Rating Key: 0=minimal; 1=slight; 2=moderate; 3=serious;
4=severe
FIRE HAZARDS
Dried out material may explode.
Vapor explosion hazard indoors, outdoors and in sewers.
2,4-Dinitrophenol is a FLAMMABLE LIQUID (depending upon carrier solvent) or an explosive solid.
Flood with water, if water is not available, use dry chemical or dirt.
POISONOUS GASES ARE PRODUCED IN FIRE, including Nitrogen Oxides.
CONTAINERS MAY EXPLODE IN FIRE.
FIRE MAY RESTART AFTER IT HAS BEEN EXTINGUISHED.
Use water spray to keep fire-exposed containers cool.
If employees are expected to fight fires, they must be trained and equipped as stated in OSHA 1910.156.
SPILLS AND EMERGENCIES
If 2,4-Dinitrophenol is spilled or leaked, take the following steps:
Restrict persons not wearing protective equipment from area of spill or leak until clean up is complete.
Remove all ignition sources.
Ventilate area after clean up is complete.
Collect powdered material in the most convenient and safe manner and deposit in sealed containers.
Keep 2,4-Dinitrophenol out of a confined space, such as a sewer, because of the possibility of an explosion, unless the sewer is designed to prevent the build-up of explosive concentrations.
It may be necessary to contain and dispose of 2,4- Dinitrophenol as a HAZARDOUS WASTE.
Contact your Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) or your regional office of the federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for specific recommendations.
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FOR LARGE SPILLS AND FIRES call your fire department immediately.
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HANDLING AND STORAGE
Prior to working with 2,4-Dinitrophenol you should be trained on its proper handling and storage.
Keep 2,4-Dinitrophenol wet or treat it as an explosive. Dried out material may explode if exposed to heat, flame or shock.
Store in tightly closed containers in a cool, well-ventilated area away from LIGHT.
2,4-Dinitrophenol is incompatible with STRONG OXIDIZERS (such as CHLORINE, BROMINE and FLUORINE, STRONG BASES, ACID CHLORIDES and ACID ANHYDRIDES).
FIRST AID
Eye Contact
Immediately flush with large amounts of water for at least 15 minutes, occasionally lifting upper and lower lids. Seek medical attention (immediately).
Skin Contact
Quickly remove contaminated clothing. Immediately wash contaminated skin with large amounts of (soap and) water.
Breathing
Remove the person from exposure.
Begin rescue breathing if breathing has stopped and CPR if heart action has stopped.
Transfer promptly to a medical facility.
PHYSICAL DATA
Flash Point: Not Found
Water Solubility: Slightly soluble
OTHER COMMONLY USED NAMES
Chemical Name: 1-Hydroxy-2,4-Dinitrobenzene
Other Names and Formulations:
Alpha Dinitrophenol; Aldifen; Fenoxyl Carbon N.
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ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
2,4-Dinitrophenol is a yellowish crystalline solid and is the most important of the six possible dinitrophenol forms. It is used mostly as an intermediate to make dyes, photochemicals, pest control agents, wood preservatives, and explosives. It may enter the environment from industrial discharges, spills, or possibly as a breakdown product of certain pesticides containing 2,4- Dinitrophenol moieties.
ACUTE (SHORT-TERM) ECOLOGICAL EFFECTS
Acute toxic effects may include the death of animals, birds, or fish, and death or low growth rate in plants.
Acute effects are seen two to four days after animals or plants come in contact with a toxic chemical substance.
2,4-Dinitrophenol has high acute toxicity to aquatic life and to birds. Insufficient data are available to evaluate or predict the short-term effects of 2,4-Dinitrophenol to plants or land animals.
CHRONIC (LONG-TERM) ECOLOGICAL EFFECTS
Chronic toxic effects may include shortened lifespan, reproductive problems, lower fertility, and changes in appearance or behavior. Chronic effects can be seen long after first exposure(s) to a toxic chemical.
2,4-Dinitrophenol has moderate chronic toxicity to aquatic life. Insufficient data are available to evaluate or predict the long- term effects of 2,4-Dinitrophenol to plants, birds, or land animals.
WATER SOLUBILITY
2,4-Dinitrophenol is moderately soluble in water. Concentrations of between 1 to 1,000 milligrams will mix with a liter of water.
DISTRIBUTION AND PERSISTENCE IN THE ENVIRONMENT
2,4-Dinitrophenol is slightly persistent in water, with a half-life of between 2 to 20 days. The half-life of a pollutant is the amount of time it takes for one-half of the chemical to be degraded. About 98.75% of 2,4-Dinitrophenol will eventually end up in water; about 0.65% will end up in terrestrial soil; and about 0.6% will end up in aquatic sediments.
BIOACCUMULATION IN AQUATIC ORGANISMS
Some substances increase in concentration, or bioaccumulate, in living organisms as they breathe contaminated air, drink contaminated water, or eat contaminated food. These chemicals can become concentrated in the tissues and internal organs of animals and humans.
The concentration of 2,4-Dinitrophenol found in fish tissues is expected to be somewhat higher than the average concentration of 2,4-Dinitrophenol in the water from which the fish was taken. SUPPORT DOCUMENT: AQUIRE Database, ERL-Duluth, U.S.EPA.
GETTING DOWN AND DIRTY
So let’s get down to the real deal with DNP then. This is what this article is on about anyway. So put those surgical gloves on and handle with care.
OK so first thing, I dried the DNP powder for two days under a 60W light bulb. I had been reading about the flammable/explosive qualities of this thing, and I wasn’t too comfortable doing that. I had to leave it overnight under the bulb and I kept having vision of the thing drying out too much and blowing up, knocking away half my house with it. Or maybe the bulb would fall in and ignite the whole shebang. Fortunately for me, the light bulb stayed put so there were no fires. Also, when I had the powder dried to my liking, I took some granules and subjected them to forceful compression, but there were no satisfying bangs. So this thing is at least moderately safe from a detonative point of view.
The powder itself comes in wetted form, and it is a sticky, dark yellow mass that cakes easily. In fact, what characterized my batch was that every time I tried to put some powder on my filter paper so that I could put it under the bulb to dry, large lumps would roll out and spread DNP granules everywhere. This doesn’t sound too bad, but I quickly noticed that the damn stuff colors everything it touches yellow. Pretty soon, my desk, my balance top (the color passed right through the filter paper) and even my fingers looked like hyperactive canaries. I was using surgical gloves to handle the powder (DNP is carcinogenic so the less time it spends in contact with your fingertips the better) but the color even seeped through those. So one word of caution: don’t play with this stuff in your Sunday clothes; if you stain them, there will be hell to pay either from your wife or your Mom. Also, put some absorbent paper on your desk and save yourself some nouveau design interior decorating. The desk doesn’t look too pretty with bright yellow blotches on anyway. Trust me. I’m talking from personal experience.
OK, so finally, I got the stuff on the filter paper and under the bulb, and I left it there to dry out with some trepidation (you know the whole thing could blow up somehow). I decided that after a couple of days that the powder was dry enough so that I could weigh the thing out and put it into my capsules. I use a digital scale, which, though pretty accurate, only measures to the nearest tenth of a gram, which allows for some margin of error. (The models that are accurate to a thousandth of a gram are a bit out of my price range, you know, like way expensive.) Well a tenth of a degree aint that bad if you are a bit careful. I tried to bypass this error by measuring each sample out several times so that I could see if the balance gave me the same weighing out at least on three occasions. More time consuming I know but again, I had heard really unpleasant things about DNP so I wasn’t gonna risk my ass. I dint wanna fry by ingesting too much of the stuff.
So I had my first 200mg lying there on a filter paper, which I noticed with interest, was already becoming yellow. (I of course took no notice of the tenacious staining abilities of DNP at this early stage; that came later when I looked at my hands and my desk and started swearing.) To transfer the dose to a cap, I used a home made paper funnel, which I rapidly discovered is a pretty good way of contributing to your high blood pressure that can come by using those nasty roids. The darn thing gets clogged pretty regularly and seeing that you can get some lumpy bits of DNP (compared to opening of the funnel) that haven’t dried properly, this doesn’t help at all. I’ll try to get a micro glass funnel that fits into the cap opening next time; maybe this will work out better. Of course, if you could get a cap filler, all the more power to you, it will make your life much easier. I am presently just working with what I can get my hands on. I dint bother looking for a cap filler cause I seem to be doing OK just this way. Apart from swearing and changing funnels frequently that is.
Well, I transferred enough powder to make 10 caps (to last me five days, because I am presently taking 200mg twice daily, to get me up to the required total of 400mg. The first cap was by far the hardest to take; all the horror stories I heard about DNP would come flooding to me every time I put the darn thing near my mouth. It was like I was going to swallow arsenic or something for Godsakes. OK, so I delayed taking the DNP till about 8 o’clock at night, until I got pretty pissed at myself. So, as I was eating my meal, I got the cap and said "To hell with it. No fear right?" and slammed the thing right down my gullet right on top of my pasta and eggwhites. I refrained (barely) from calling my gal up for a fond farewell (feeling damn stupid for thinking that too). I took 1500mg of Vitamin C and 50µg of Cytomel along with it too. The Vitamin C is purportedly for replenishing the Vitamin C that DNP vacuums from the corneas, which can cause cataracts in the long run, while the Cytomel replenishes the T3 in the liver. This is because the temperature elevation induced by DNP will slow down to a great extent the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver, so the Cytomel brings you up to normal values without any danger of becoming hypothyroidal.
Well, I was surprised when time wore by and there were no sudden pains or nasty regurgitation of foul-tasting, DNP-filled stomach exudates. I didn’t feel so hot either so I figured that the first DNP dose didn’t produce such a dramatic effect. I was pretty relieved when I woke up next morning too; at least the damn stuff hadn’t killed me in my sleep. I know this all sounds pretty stupid but when you hear all that horror stuff about how DNP is the deadliest thing you can put in your mouth, you get kind of relieved that you are still breathing. I am not saying that DNP is safe of course, it is still a chemical that you have to treat with a lot of respect but a little common sense does go a long way.
Well I took my 200mg DNP, 1500mg Vitamin C, and 50µg Cytomel doses, twice daily for the next three days without noticing anything much except maybe some hot flashes every now and then. I was getting pretty disappointed with the DNP maybe because I had been expecting a little bit too much from it. As I have mentioned before, my drying and weighing methods were not extremely accurate so I could have been underdosing somewhat, which might explain the lack of effect for the first three days. Of course, I noticed in retrospect that in very cold weather (relatively cold weather, I should say, our winters could be called other people’s summers but we here aren’t used to the cold very much so anything under 20 degrees Celsius is cold weather) you don’t really notice that you are feeling warm, much warmer than you should. I noticed this when I took a few days’ break off DNP, the reason for which I explain later on in this article. In fact, within two or three days of stopping ingestion, I noticed that the weather was damn cold and my fingers constantly threatened to fall off. However, on the middle of the third day of DNP usage, the first real heatwave hit me. I spent like three hours sweating noticeably, with my face a very conspicuous red. That was the start of it. From that day on, as long as my first cycle of DNP lasted, I would get heatwaves lasting anything up to five hours a few hours after my DNP dose. They would then taper off slowly, only to come back on a little after each successive dose. You quickly get used to this feeling, however, but I quickly learnt that it is not a good idea to go to certain places while on DNP. Let me illustrate this with an example. Spielberg’s movie "Saving Private Ryan" was on at the local movie theatre, and as I had heard a lot of positive comments about it, I decided to go and see it. Which turned out to be a damn bad idea. I was pretty fine for the first fifteen minutes of the movie, but then I started to notice that the room was getting a bit warm. The seat was getting pretty friggin hot too. I wriggled around trying to find a comfortable position (the seats are a bit small for me too I think - I’m no heavyweight but somehow I seem to find all the uncomfortable spots that kept digging into my back). Fifteen minutes later, sweat was streaming happily down my face, my back and my legs. I could feel my jeans getting damp against the back of my legs, and I could feel drops of sweat rolling down my calves into my socks. I started puffing a bit too, which was a bit embarrassing to say the least. I began to think this was turning out to be a very bad way to spend a Friday night. I wondered why the hell the air-conditioning wasn’t turned on. (It was, as it turned out later.) One hour after the start of the movie I found myself prayin for the intermission so that I could go outside in the fresh air and cool down a little. Of course, as luck would have it, "Saving Private Ryan" was turning out to be a damn long movie and the intermission took forever to happen. For a few seconds, I thought the movie might as well have been named "Saving Sweating Iceman". Well, when the intermission came, I very impolitely trampled everybody’s feet on the way out of my aisle, because I was so desperate to get out of that oven. Outside the theatre in the lobby, patrons kept on giving me funny stares, and I guess I must have been a sight cause I must have looked like someone coming from some sprinting race somewhere. The air outside was so cool and refreshing, it was like heaven. Of course, to normal, DNP-free human beings, it was freezing cold. The usher saw me outside and must have taken pity at my sweat-drenched face cause he came over concerned and asked me if the viewing room was too hot, to which I nodded very vigorously. I must have been very convincing (as indeed I was) because when I went back inside for my next ordeal, I saw him remotely setting the air conditioning. The units there are pretty big cause within five minutes, the most delicious cool air wafted around the room. This is great, I thought, I’m actually gonna enjoy the rest of the movie. However, I had misjudged the reactions of the rest of the audience. A few minutes later, a few sparse grumbles were heard from about two rows behind me, asking nobody in particular if the usher thought we were Eskimos. The rumble of discontent grew until it was a definitely audible wave of complaints. Witty comments like "Does he wanna freeze my balls off?" and "Someone go tell him that if my gal keeps on asking me to warm her up, I can’t see the movie" caused a general titter. Finally, I saw someone go down the aisle and I figured that my minutes of comfort were over. In fact, the usher came back in and amidst a load of rabid remarks and catcalls set the airconditioner back to its previous setting.
Suffice it to say "Saving Private Ryan" didn’t turn out to be the experience I had hoped it would be.
OK back to us. I was saying that the first of the heatwaves actually started somewhere around the third day of my DNP cycle. However, as my cycle progressed, I noticed that other side effects came through, most, if not all, of which were definitely funny. I’ll try to explain some of them here, as they happened to me.
OK, so here’s the sweaty part of it. Sweat is probably the most conspicuous part of DNP use. Animal has suggested that taking glycerol daily while on the DNP will greatly offset this particular side effect. Indeed, if you can get your hands on the stuff (I can supply it if you are interested, e-mail for details), feel free to take 10ml every day and see how that affects you. Personally, I took 15ml of glycerol for 2 days and the stuff made me damn sick. First of all it is so friggin sweet that it made me retch. I have no sweet tooth whatsoever and I confess to having very few weaknesses in the candy store department. (The few ones that I have are murder though.) So glycerol just doesn’t appeal to me whatsoever. Actually, I just can’t look glycerol in the face anymore. So I skip it and sweat it out but I know of people who can tolerate it pretty well and take it regularly with their DNP. And you do really sweat it out cause when the heatwaves hit you; you just drip like hell. As I said before, avoid, hot crampy places unless ya wanna end up slugging someone. Then, at night, you’ll sweat in third gear. You’ll wake up in a slick of sweaty bad clothes. Lyle McDonald said in his article on DNP that there are good ways and bad ways to soak bedsheets in sweat and this isn’t a good way. I have come to agree with the guy wholeheartedly. It’s pretty bad when you wake up and you feel like a cow has licked you all over. Three times. One particularly off putting part for me was feeling the pillow (which feels like it has a heater in it set on low) slide wetly against my oozing neck. Another important thing here, which I would like to share: don’t go to bed with the chick of your life when you have been on this stuff for a few days. She’ll be put off you forever in the morning. Well, that said, a few days later, you would notice that your sweat starts to change. First off, you’ll note a very gradual change in color. You will start leaving tell tale tracks of yellow stains on your underwear or your shirt collar. So anyone with mothers or wives or girlfriends doing the laundry, beware. That yellow line along the shirt collar is like waving a red flag at a bull.
And that is not all there is to the sweaty details. Personally speaking, I seemed to sweat most markedly from my groin area and the inside cleft of my legs. Believe me, at times it was like I had pissed myself. And that is not funny at all. I shower at least once a day under normal conditions, but, while on DNP, three times a day was not an uncommon occurrence. I just got to the point when having dry leg clefts was a mission. And then, it got even worse when the smell of DNP started emanating from my lower regions. It is not what one would call an extremely unpleasant or foul smell, but one thing for sure dammit, it certainly aint human in origin. You start smelling real funny, from your whole body in general and from your testicular regions in particular. (Even the sweat you leave in your clothes will yell "DNP, DNP, DNP".) So another shred of bad news for those interested in starting DNP but still wanna get blowjobs. I can offer three possible solutions: one, tell the gal who’s gonna blow you what you are doing in the nicest possible way, find a gal who has problems in discerning odors, or get someone who just doesn’t give a damn in doing these things to Farmer Brown after he has come in from a day in the fields and is too bothered to wash. Any other homemade solutions are welcomed, by the way.
This brings me to another point in detailing the particularly tenacious ability of DNP to find its way into most bodily fluids or secretions. On the particularly visual side, you will see that your urine will change color. It will go from pale, watery yellow (or whatever the heck your present urine color is) to a really bright pastel yellow. Which means flush the toilet when if you are a guest at some people’s house. It also a particularly neat thing to have handy if you have pesky neighbor’s dog that keeps on barking at night, especially if it is white. Devise an ingenious method to piss on it without getting your nuts bitten off, so you can stain its fur with yellow streaks. This is guaranteed to drive the owner’s nuts. Apart from urine, sweat is also another destination for DNP, as is obvious from what has been discussed earlier. DNP also gets into your semen eventually, which will gradually change to pale yellow if you are on the stuff for long enough. This brings up a particularly important point. DNP, due to it’s carcinogenic and mutagenic properties, has potential danger to all living cells. I would surmise therefore, that there would be a grave danger in having intercourse while on DNP where there is a potential risk of a pregnancy occurring. (I would be pleased to hear if anyone has a different or contrasting version of my theory.) I also suspect that any DNP present in the semen (which will occur if DNP has been taken for a long enough continuous period of time) may be absorbed through the oral mucous if semen is held for some time in the mouth and more so if it is swallowed. In reality, this route of DNP ingestion will probably result in a minimal amount of DNP being absorbed but one should take into consideration that the 400mg recommended daily dosage is for 200lb+ bodybuilders. Individuals of smaller weight (as a lot of females are) would need a much lesser dose to produce noticeable effects. According to feedback which I have received from informal surveying, the most apparent effects are minimal, mostly tachycardia (increased heartbeat) and headaches. However, I have to admit that more scientific research is definitely needed to prove this point. I thought it worth mentioning however.
Another area I’d like to see research into (though I doubt it will happen) is whether DNP has potential to be deposited in other bodily systems such as the sclera (the white part of the eye), teeth (these two areas are obviously undesirable end points for this chemical due to the obvious negative visual effects), and other areas such as bones and internal organs. In this way, one could determine whether DNP supplementation could have negative effects in this manner of passing through the body.
Another thing one will notice with DNP is its effect on the intestinal system. I don’t know precisely, by which mechanism this works but I have noticed and confirmed with other users that, while on DNP, one will experience a fairly uncomfortable diarrhea. While the condition in itself is not debilitating to any degree, it will be uncomfortable to have to go to the toilet several times a day. On a personal note, I noticed that even though I would have visited the toilet before going to the gym, this situation would be a particular nuisance during workouts cause it makes ya think of your bowels all the time. These means squats are definitely not funny. If they ever were that is.
DNP also rewards one with what it feels like to be a fat, out-of-shape slob because one very definite thing it brings about is acute shortness of breath on minimal exertion. In fact, climbing the stairs will have you puffing like a hippo. I read about this condition somewhere but I can’t recall the info offhand. Actually, this had me quite worried until I came off DNP and I found that my breathing returned to normal fairly quickly. Socially, this can turn out to be a bit embarrassing as well. We are bodybuilders after all. Stairs or tying our shoelaces shouldn’t phase us for Godsakes.
However, by far the worst condition I experienced while on DNP was an incredible dryness of my throat. This would range from fairly uncomfortable during the daytime (presumably because the normal swallowing mechanism of saliva, drink and food that take place during waking hours kept the tracheo-pharynegeal region lubricated) to really painful at night. In fact, night times turned particularly nasty as my throat desiccated itself to sandpaper dryness while I was asleep. It even got bad enough to wake me up at times, and drinking water had little to no effect on the condition. Breathing was markedly difficult at night, and snoring apparently increased to an intolerable crescendo. I do have to admit that sometimes I snored so loudly I woke myself up. I also noticed that throat dryness was so marked that I had definite sensations (I suspect in the epiglottal region) that my throat was sticking together. Swallowing felt like pulling a Post-It note off the wall at times. At worst, it got painful enough to make me wince and curse my DNP indulgence. This was definitely one of the worst aspects of my cycle and it made me quit taking DNP for a few days until the pain wore off.
This throat dryness also produced incredible tenacious phlegm, which I found almost impossible to expectorate. (Seems to me like this DNP turns you into a damn unsociable freak really.) While I could feel the phlegm clinging to my throat as I talked or swallowed (you all know what it feels like), bringing it up was a mission from God. I used to clear my throat so hard that I became hoarse for a few days. The secretion itself was so dry that it felt like a rope. Spitting this in public is not recommended because you get so pissed off at constantly trying to bring the phlegm up that on the invariable occasions that you do manage, you feel like you have won a small victory on some incredibly irritating enemy and you feel the need to vent this aggravation by spitting it out with a marked flair and savagery. Keep this one in mind folks. I did this without even realizing it when I was with my girl waiting to buy tickets at the movies and God; it took all my charm to make her relent for embarrassing her.
CONCLUSION
Well, I think that is about all there is to say for now about DNP use. I hope that someone out there will find this information useful. I tried to present it in as easily an accessible a manner as possible so that one can easily identify himself with the various conditions that they may experience while using DNP. It’s good to be informed beforehand about anything. Forewarned is, after all, forearmed. In conclusion I would like to say that DNP does its fat burning job admirably. I have never seen anything as powerful as this thing for burning fat. A friend of mine once said that the only thing he knew about DNP was that it burnt fat like hellfire and I think that phrase describes DNP perfectly. I lost fat while eating over 5000Cals a day, which, you must admit, is no mean feat. So any of you out there wishing to try DNP do your homework and see if DNP is for you. I hope that this short write up answers some of your questions and makes your decisions more informed.
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Loads of care everybody. Keep smilin.
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