And would like to know others experiences....im talking bout running 6 on 6 off, 6 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off, running like that for about a year at a time using strong steroids like tren ace, test prop, ment, ect.....im very interested in trying this....especially after loving tren but having no dick after awhile.....right now im on a 16-18 week cycle, that gets old after a while tho....