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30 solid pounds in 6 months

FastBunny

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Thanks for taking the time and following through this log is fantastic! Great job bro!
 

Elvia1023

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Hello

So is it in your view IGF1 worth the investment? At the average price of £100 for 1mg for a good product is not just cheaper running gh ?

Sorry about the late reply. This is actually my old log but thanks for bumping it. I think igf-1 lr3 is a fantastic investment. Although you don't have to pay anywhere near that price for it. One of the decent ones I used cost me next to nothing. But sure a decent product will cost more but still less than half what you stated.

Thanks for taking the time and following through this log is fantastic! Great job bro!

Thank you.

Hope the back injury is healing up fast

Hi matey, good to hear from you. This is actually my old log but I looked back a few pages... memories :D My back is feeling good. It's still not 100% but I have been training hard. Just machine work though so I don't lift any heavy db's or anything like that. All plate loaded machines. I haven't trained hamstrings yet but will do a light workout soon. I have done 1 quad workout. Trained calves a few times but just seated raises and nothing standing just to be safe. Mainly upper body this week on machines. Tonight I went to failure on chest presses for 7 reps for example.

I have also come off and was on hcg at 1000iu eod. Now I am on nolva and clomid but dropping the clomid as it makes me feel off. I found them in the cupboard so thought just do 50mg per day. Not coming off for awhile but I just like my body to come off even if it's just for a few weeks (it's more of a mental thing).

I will start a new log soon and expect some good things. My bulking didn't go to plan due to the injury and I have just relaxed things. Very annoying as I was going great. But this summer I am just gonna get shredded and diet properly and looking forward to it.

How have you been? Any plans for the summer?
 

Elvia1023

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I plan to do a new thread but I figured I would update here just to let people know how things have been. It's been very frustrating and it basically goes I was bulking and the gains started really coming on and things were getting better and better. Then I injure my back a few months back and it's been very annoying ever since.

I have been in a lot of pain and at first could not get out of bed. I decided to just chill and started eating like a normal person. I also come off all gear so no trt (done a mini pct). I would have 1 meal and 2-3 snacks some days plus the snacks didn't have bodybuilding in mind and could just be all carbs. Some days I was probably taking in 50-100g protein.

I maintained really well which surprised me a little due to the lack of food. But I did start training again and hard but keeping to machines and always being supported by a bench. I will admit I can overdo it at times and going the gym when you can barely put your shoes on is probably not a good idea.

Anyway things starting getting better and my diet was good but it is never bad for long as I generally eat clean a part from some cereal. Then one day I had pre workout in me and decided to do some heavy db shrugs. I am just guessing it was that as I was fine and got home and went to bed feeling good. Then I wake up and I can't move again so back to square one. I had about 10 days out of the gym. I have been off gear the entire time.

Then I started 50mg test p the other day so I wasn't off that long. I ordered needles but they have got lost so I have no slin pins. I decided to add a little tren a in the other night. I go to bed and 1 hour later wake up nearly having a panic attack. Goes to show what tren can do to me if I am not exact with dosing. I had to use a regular syringe and estimated 20mg but it must have been a bit more. Anyway I have since used some old slin pins and been dosing 20mg and up to 25mg with no issues. I will do approx 28mg tonight and that is with 50mg test p.

I have been training hard but my back is still not right so having plenty of rest days and hoping it starts getting better. I done 4 plates a side on smith presses the other day so I am pushing it when I can. Earlier I trained legs and just went for pump due to my lower back but it felt great. I will probably have tomorrow off then train shoulders and tri-ceps the next day.

I have had an issue with my left bi-cep tendon for months. I started collagen recently and that has definitely helped. I will also be adding in some healing peps soon hoping they sort me out. My plan is to go up to 50mg tren a per day over time. Then add var in at 20mg and move up over the weeks. As my cycle is pretty tame I may up the avar to 80mg as it's one thing I can up without any issues. Although last time 40mg avar was plenty for me but I want to get ripped this summer. Expect some good things and I am upping my protein to the highest I have ever had. I am drinking EAA's all through the day now.

I am surprised how decent (for me) I am looking after all of this but I have pushed the training whenever I could. I had hoped to increase food over time gaining lot's of good size whilst increasing my metabolism etc then coming down slowly but it hasn't gone to plan. Not ideal to start dieting after I have barely ate for weeks but things are going well and I plan to up things slowly over the summer months. I don't care too much about size as just went to get freaky looking. Gonna keep the drugs simple with test, tren and avar. Can't do higher test or tren. Can't be bothered with things like npp, mast or primo so a nice simple stack. Tren is all I need to maintain muscle as I get leaner and avar is my fav oral and the combo can be incredible.

Soon I will be adding in 3ml synthetine and 2ml syntheselen pre workout as well. No slin, hgh or mk-677 but I will be adding in high dosed LR3 eod later on. That will be added post workout eod with 100-200g carbs. Carbs will be limited (for me) the rest of the time but still 200g or over every day (excluding lr3 meal).
 

Elvia1023

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Sorry to hear about your back. What collagen have you started?

Thanks. Now I am using Neocell Collagen + C Pomegranate liquid. It tastes so good. I think it is 4000mg collagen plus a fruit blend per serving. Last time I used a powder but glad I picked this one. I have noticed my tendon issue is a bit better since starting it. Gonna keep it in so I will get a few more bottles to see what it does over a few months.

I will post more in here soon. My back has not been good but I am getting on with it. I trained tonight but mainly stayed on machines but still pushed it very hard. That included a drop set on flat bench. Started with 3 plates and failed then done 5 dead stop presses with extra slow négatives. Then done the same for 2 plates then 1 plate.

For hammer strength machine presses I done something similar. 5 reps with wide grip then 5 reps with narrow grip. Then take 1 plate off and do the same so 5 and 5. Then again. Then when I got down to 1 plate a side I done 5 reps with my right arm holding the weight in the stretched position with my left. Then the opposite so 5 reps with my left arm with my right holding the weight in the stretched position. Then 4,4,3,3,2,2,1,1 then 5 reps with both arms but I had pretty much failed at 4 and trhe last was a pathetic partial rep :D

I also done some pec deck and incline bench db flyes. I didn't want to use heavy db's due to my lower back but went up to I think 50 or 60 pounds and done 15 slow reps then 1 static hold for about 20 secs to finish. I also done one set of bodyweight dips to failure as well.

Then some tri-ceps (about 15 sets) which consisted of lying down ez bar tri-cep extensions. I would fail then to 5 dead stop reps with extra slow negatives. I also done some fairly heavy lying down db extensions at 60 pounds. Plus some extensions using different grips in between the other exercises. My workout was fast paced and I pretty much only rested when I was doing the heavier sets. I finished with some back and leg stretches.

As posted above this is a very old thread but just adding to it. My mate actually sent me a pic from ages ago from when we went out. I don't have many pics of me with other people so figured I would post. I think I am about 255 in this pic at 6ft 2 and fairly lean but holding water... about 10 pounds in my head :D

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Elvia1023

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Things are dare I say good. My back feels bad but better and I have been training hard but being careful at the same time. I tend to be in most pain after sleeping and it seems to tighten up. Whereas after a few hours of being up it loosens up a bit. Although sometimes it's just plain bad and I just have to take it easy.

Anyway the changes I have made in the last week have been amazing. I am up to 32mg tren a per day now. The test is the same and won't be changing ever. I will just up the tren gradually and see how I am. My diet is far from perfect but I am not eating too much and very high protein so I am changing fast.

From tomorrow I start a new diet which is essentially 5 meals of beef/chicken/shrimp/turkey with approx 40g carbs. That could be from salad with berries or a small amount of rice but very low carbs for me. My diet will be very basic and I will mainly use supps and oils (olive, argan, coconut) for my fats. I will throw in half an avocado per day. I have fish and krill oil and also Animal omega.

In the future when I get igf-1 lr3 I will start high dosing it a few times per week. I will do that approx 2 hours post workout and after that inj I will consume a very high carb/cheat meal. It will probably be chicken drizzled in honey with basmati rice and then a giant bowl of cereal such as rice/choco krispies with milk (especially 120g+ carbs). I will only take the lr3 after I train. So my carbs are going to be approx 200g on normal days and 400g on lr3 days.

training will be 4-6 days per week with every body part being hit twice per week. Generally one heavy day and one lighter day but nothign is set in stone as I go on what my body tells me. Basically just like it's been over the last few months but it will vary as I will be implementing high rep training and supersets more.

When I get avar I will add that in as well. Plus I will be adding in 3ml Synthetine and 2ml Syntheselen pre workout to maximize fat burning.
 

Elvia1023

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I am limited when training due to my lower back so I have been avoiding heavy free weights recently. Mainly kept to machines and I am always aware of my lower back. Truth be told I have took plenty of risks and probably overdone things but I am feeling better.

I just trained calves, chest and tri-ceps. Today was very basic and heavy. I am training calves more now so approx 3 times per week. I done very high reps the other day so today was all very basic and as heavy as possible. I plan to train legs 2moro so I kept calves to just seated calf raises and not too many sets. I worked up the weight until 10 good reps was a struggle. Instead of adding more weight I used the same weight but utilized low rest periods and performed 3 quick sets. After warming up my chest using light db's and a few machines I went heavy on flat barbell press. I got up to 3.5 plates a side then done a drop set. When I got down to 2.5 plates I started using dead stop presses after failing on normal presses. I ended up with 1 plate a side and that destroyed me as I done about 15 reps then 10 dead stop presses. I finished with very heavy incline hammer presses with a max weight for 6 reps. Then one set of db flyes with a static hold.

The other day when I trained legs and delts I opted for something very different. Basically 3 sets of 50 reps on seated calf raises, 2 sets of 50 reps on standing calf raises and 2 sets of 50 reps on machine tibialis raises. Then for quads it was 6 sets of 50 rep unilateral leg extensions and about 5 sets of 15 rep leg presses. This was one of the most painful workouts for a long time for me. I don't want to go heavy for many leg movements due to my lower back so utilized this approach for something different and I recommend it to everyone. I can do the full weight rack of leg extensions for 50 reps but those are crazy fast paced reps. I used tiny weights for this but kept the pace slow and squeezed on every rep. I felt like failing at 20 reps even with light weight so by 50 I was in agony. I don't usually like do do upper body after legs but finished with some delts and mainly laterals and front raises. Ended with the full weight rack on machine lateral raises for controlled reps with a 10 sec pause at the top at the end. Front raises were done on the seated cable row machine and the tension is crazy so I can't lift my arms up after those. I just done 3 sets of 15-10 reps and can push it as my back feels safe as I am lying down on the pad.

All my hamstring work recently has been light weight pump sets due to my lower back. I did go up to the middle of the rack a couple of times but feel safer staying light weight and just rotating legs with no rest between any sets.

I am feeling good as I am getting leaner by the day and I have only just began but I do have a lot of catching up to do. One of the annoying things about my back is I really wanted to push my ab training. I haven't been able to train them properly for 2 months but did some bodyweight stuff earlier... I hope I can move in the morning :eek::D
 

Bakunin

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Wow your a bigboy , as am I(6"3) and you really cant respect your size in pics unless standing next to someone!!

You mentioned Anavar, its one of the few that I havent tried yet but am considering for my next cycle. Why do you like it so much.
 

Elvia1023

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Wow your a bigboy , as am I(6"3) and you really cant respect your size in pics unless standing next to someone!!

You mentioned Anavar, its one of the few that I havent tried yet but am considering for my next cycle. Why do you like it so much.

Thank you. It's very true. Very short guys can look freaky in pics alone but stand them next to someone big and tall and it looks very different. Although bodybuilding is a short man's sport and my genetics are terrible for it. It is mad though how I can look in pics alone compared to stood next to other people.

Anavar makes me harder and more vascular and simply look much better. It doesn't fill you up with water and give big size but the when combined with everything else (training, carbs, water etc) you will look bigger, fuller and tighter. If you're already lean have some avar with things like 10mg cialis and 6g l-citrilline and your physique comes to life.
 

Elvia1023

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Today was meant to be an off day but I ended up training and glad I did now. My back seems to be getting better as well. I have been stretching it out after every training session. For me I looked freaky when training so looking forward to the next few months because I have just started. My gf has joined my gym so I can get her to take some pics over the summer. My physique comes to life when training and my shoulders and arms may have looked their best ever before. Hopefully the pics I post over the next few weeks show what I mean. I destroyed my shoulders and tri-ceps with a mixture of weights. I did shoulder press 2.5 plates a side for 10 controlled reps in a superset of 3 movements. My rear delts have really improved this year so I will just continue with what I am doing.

I forgot to post details of my diet the other day. As I posted it's very simple and essentially 5 meals of beef/chicken/shrimp/turkey with approx 40g carbs. I forgot to mention something very important and the fact I also drink as much protein as I want on top of those meals. That has been about 10 scoops of eaa's and 1 big whey (50-100g) shake most days. Some of those eaa's are taken intra with approx 50g carbs as well. So it was a big detail to miss out and very important.

It's not like I am competing so I am never 100% and I add things in but my meals will pretty much be that. You won't have me having pizza or crap like that. Generally my macros will be what I posted for every meal. But an example is today I drank 1 litre of coconut water which was about 40g sugar. I also had watermelon and black cherries for my carbs for 3 meals. Post workout about 1kg of watermelon which is about 60g sugar. It is hot here and I eat a lot of watermelon during the summer. Most days I will have those 5 meals with approx 1kg watermelon extra and that's it. For me it's more than enough for me to get shredded. Obviously if I want to take it to that next level over time I can be more strict but right now I am pretty much improving daily.

Today I added 25mg proviron and 20mg avar. I didn't think my pack had avar in so was made up to see it in there. I will stay at the same doses then up the avar to 40mg in a few days and go from there. Today I also dosed 2ml Synthetine and 1 ml Syntheselen pre workout.
 

Bakunin

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Thank you for the answer mate!

I always read your thread on prom too, I just dont have much time on my hands because of work so I dont post much.

Please keep it up!

I need to get my wife to order some more geno goodies as at times gear can be hard to get here, well quality gear that is :)
 

Elvia1023

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Thank you for the answer mate!

I always read your thread on prom too, I just dont have much time on my hands because of work so I dont post much.

Please keep it up!

I need to get my wife to order some more geno goodies as at times gear can be hard to get here, well quality gear that is :)

Thank you. I am going to go for it this summer. I just need to keep myself in check as I have minimal will power :p I enjoy life and always eat healthy 95% of the time but I am not one for eating plans :eek::D Today I replaced 2 chicken meals with oat meals but kept them small so the macros weren't much different. I know even by making changes like that and the odd treat I can reach my goals easily. Once I get into routine everything will be much easier for me. If you ever need anything just let me know.
 

Elvia1023

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Since I upped the tren to 30mg+ over the last week or so I have been getting night sweats. I am waking up with my pillow drenched and it smells like vinegar :eek::D Anyone else get that? Literally vinegar and strong and only happens on tren.

My back has been getting better and better. But last night I had a long sleep and woke up and it's been so tight all day. I just have to keep doing what I am doing and it will get better. My healing peps will be here soon so hopefully they help matters. I also use voltaren 2% gel which definitely helps with the inflammation.
 

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Since I upped the tren to 30mg+ over the last week or so I have been getting night sweats. I am waking up with my pillow drenched and it smells like vinegar :eek::D Anyone else get that? Literally vinegar and strong and only happens on tren.

My back has been getting better and better. But last night I had a long sleep and woke up and it's been so tight all day. I just have to keep doing what I am doing and it will get better. My healing peps will be here soon so hopefully they help matters. I also use voltaren 2% gel which definitely helps with the inflammation.
My side of the bed looks like it's been slept on by homeless people for the last 2 years.

Dingy brown gross stain from night sweats. I tried mattress protectors but every one I've tried just made a puddle of sweat I would roll around in on top of being even hotter.

And yes, the smell is rank. I wash my sheets, pillow cases and blankets every day or it's unbearable and my wife starts bitchin. That's on any 19nor though, not just tren.
 

Elvia1023

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I haven't updated in a while but lot's to mention. Firstly my back is still fucked but working around it. I have been getting bad sciatica pain. If I sit down for a while when I stand up I get shooting pain down my right leg and I can't physically walk for a few minutes. I am staying positive and do think it will get better I just hope there is no permanent damage.

My hormones are still the same but I have just added BPC-157 and TB-500 hoping they can help my recovery. I have also added CJCJ-DAC and injected 2.5mg the other day. I will dose it at 5mg (2.5 x 2)for the next 6 weeks. My aas is still at 50mg test p, 40mg tren a, 25mg proviron and 20mg avar per day with 250mg (125 x 2) test c per week. Although I will be upping the avar to 40mg 2moro and a few days later probably the proviron to 50mg.

Training has been a complete mixture of everything but super intense. Due to my lower back it effects many things but still pushing it hard in a smart way. I did do a heavy leg workout last week but most workouts are higher reps (still intense). Chest and shoulders I just do what I always do. I shoulder pressed 3 plates a side for 4 reps last night so still pushing the weight when I can. My left bi-cep tendon prevents me from pulling down any weight and I am hoping the healing peps can sort that out as it's been an issue for awhile now (even after breaks from the gym).

I was using 3ml synthetine and 2ml syntheselen pre workout and the fat was melting off as well. Then my parents came to visit me which was booked late and I dropped everything for them. It's the first time they have been here in over a year. So they got to meet my new dog and I took them out everyday. Pretty much everything I ate in those days was from a restaurant and I decided to not diet and just picked whatever I wanted. I also had some drinks for the World Cup final.

I am back on plan from today. Although I ate in restaurants it was not a large volume of food (for me) so things are still ok. I actually trained last night and got some pics done. I am a bit bloated in them but they have come out quite good so I will post them when I can. So it is full steam ahead now with a clean diet. I will restrict things more as I go along. My protein intake is nowhere near 500g (what I had planned) but I pretty much drink EAA's all day so have a constant supply of aminos which will only assist my goals.
 

Elvia1023

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Here is were I am starting from now. Gonna tighten up over summer whilst retaining fullness.

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