30 solid pounds in 6 months

[Victory]

You have put on a lot of size.

 

[Kinetix]

Nice work a a great thread. Keep it going!

 

[Elvia1023]

You have put on a lot of size.

Thanks

Nice work a a great thread. Keep it going!

Thank you. I will try. It's an old thread but figured I would carry on posting even if my goals have changed.

Looking good big E!!!

Them gloves tho hahaha jk

How much are you weighong atm mate?

Thanks. Some guys act like they are a bit gay but they make a big difference to me. Especially now and the amount I sweat when training. I forgot them the other week and walked back so I could use them

I haven't a clue what I weigh. It played with my head a bit in the past but not really bothered now but I will still leave it. I don't even own a scale but next time I am in the UK in my parents I will see the damage I know I have lost weight as I barely eat these days. But I could starve myself and probably hold 230 so it will likely be around 240 but coming down in the next few weeks.

 

[Elvia1023]

I trained legs the other night. I started with calves and moved onto some glute and ab/adductor work. Afterwards it was mainly lighter weights and supersets for hams and quads. Even so my back was really bad the next day. I would usually have the next day off but promised my gf I would train with her. I ended up training chest so a safe body part for back as long as I don't get carried away and venture over to the db's

Before training I dosed 20mg, avar, 25mg proviron, 3ml synthetine, 2ml syntheselen and 1 scoop of Nutrabio pre workout.

I am on 600mg test per week (250mg test c and 50mg test p daily) and been using 12.5mg aromasin daily. But my joints have started drying out a little so gonna have a break from it. I will swop over to 20mg nolva and rotate back later on.

I also tried peptidetech's lr3 for the first time last night and have to say was underwhelmed. I need to give it more time though and can't fully judge it after 1 dose. I am hoping it wasn't damaged during transit as I had to have it sent to 2 different countries before getting it and it's very hot. Time will tell. I have also started TB-500 and BPC-157 hoping they help improve my bi-cep tendon, back and overall recovery. I addedf them earlier and my bi-cep tendon is the same so a bit disappointed but again they need more time.

 

[Elvia1023]

Excelsior made me get a little carried away. I spent 2 1/2 hours training back and bi-ceps and I am destroyed. My pump lasted the whole time though thanks to my pre workout cocktail Post workout I had steak and pasta. Soon I will high dose LR3 and have a massive bowl of cereal (150g carbs) with an extra 75g protein from Synthepure. I looked fuller but tighter that my pic the other day whilst training but I will wait a little longer before posting new pics.

 

[Elvia1023]

I think we have lift off with the lr3 The first inj I done soon after mixing the vial which is not ideal. No one should go by side effects but LR3 does have distinctive ones for me. I just dosed approx 180mcg unilaterally (90 in each lat) and I feel a bit out of it now. The massive bowl of cereal has helped. Not as strong in effect as my last 2 I used but that's just initial sides so I will see how it effects fullness/tightness over the next week. Gonna have a synthepure shake now with approx 75g protein and 15g added fibre. Then my pre bed supps which tonight is just ZMA and some krill oil.

 

[Elvia1023]

I felt the peptidetech LR3 much more last night but not getting the crazy fullness/tightness I usually do. I am using 180mcg as well so it's definitely dosed high enough. I don't want to unfairly judge it as it hasn't been long but so far I am disappointed with it.

The BPC-157 and TB-500 I guess I was expecting miracles. It's just last time I used them I felt the difference in days. This time there has been a difference but it's much slower and nowhere as dramatic.

I am also using cjc-dac and have noticed a big drop in energy levels since starting so I know that is working as all gh boosters do the same for me. I need to give everything more time as it's not been long at all.

After training back the other night for super high volume I woke up and it felt great. Every muscle in my middle/upper back was sore but my messed up lower back felt the best it has in ages. Today it's been worse and I know my computer chain probably doesn't help matters.

Tonight I will be training calves. shoulders and tri-ceps. Gonna push things in every area. Preworkout will be 3ml synthetine, 2ml syntheselen, 40mg avar, 25mg proviron, 20mg cialis and whatever preworkout powder I decide to use.

I am fairly pleased with how I look but I 100% need to tighten up my waist. One of the annoying things about my back is I am very limited with ab/waist training. Obviously you can't spot reduce fat but ab training 100% makes a massive difference for me when I want to tighten up my waist. I mainly do all bodyweight stuff apart from some heavy crunches which most don't advise but I like the "pop" and big blocky abs they can help create.

 

[Elvia1023]

Makes me look shorter and bloated but another one from the gym...

 

[montego]

Looking good man.

Getting a little soft here and there is just part of the process! Embrace the sweats, shortness of breath and extra padding [emoji16]

 

[Elvia1023]

Looking good man.

Getting a little soft here and there is just part of the process! Embrace the sweats, shortness of breath and extra padding [emoji16]

Thanks. That pic is a bit misleading. That night I was really bloated and my waist was soft. I am actually much more tighter than it looks. I look a bit of a mess in the pic to be honest. Big but blocky. I just booked a little holiday so don't have much time but will try and get some pics done before I go to show you what I mean. Then it will be 4 nights of drinking in Spain and back to see my parents for a few days afterwards.

 

[Elvia1023]

When it rains it pours Only joking but a minor set back. I have mentioned the trapped nerve I get in the past, Anyway I trained calves on Wed night then warmed up my shoulders. 1st exercise I done some db front raises. I lift it up and feel a sharp stabbing pain in my right middle trap. The pain was really bad but stubborn me carries on and moves over to Smith shoulder presses. I do 3 sets of 10kg, 20kg and 30kg a side then I have 2 plates a side. I usually go to about 3 plates per side. I couldn't even lift my right arm with severe pain so I stop being stupid and go home annoyed. I have had it many times and I know the pain can be bad but the injury is 4 days max.

I woke up in severe pain but wanted to train today so figured a pump arm and leg workout. I rotated tri-ceps/bi-ceps then onto hams and quads (literally just ham curls and leg extensions). I ended up having a great workout and it done me good. Most would say you're stupid to train but I know my body so it worked out good. It's still sore now but with the help of the healing peps it should be gone very soon. I jumped the gun with the healing peps simply because of how fast they worked last time. My bi-cep tendon is getting better each day and I trained with no pain today for the first time in months. I 100% know it's due to them as I have had it for ages so I am happy. My lower back is also getting better so more good news. I don't know which is having the most impact but the combo of BPC-157 and TB-500 is gtg for me.

That brings me onto the lr3 and I don't think it mixed evenly. The water doesn't upload in the slin pin fast and takes ages and falls in drops. Anyway I dosed it last night and went full blown hypo post injection. I did think shall I have my cereal ready but it couldn't have been more than 2 mins before I injected to started eating. It was bad. You know the hypo were you are eating and water/sweat is falling from your face into the bowl. I was soaked in sweat and shaking so my bad and that won't happen again. I had two big bowls of Crunch nut corn flakes (about 200g carbs) and staggered over to my bed and lay there until it passed. My bed was soaked when I got up. So becareful when you dose lr3 especially when it's post workout. One benefit is I woke up tighter and fuller though

My pre workout combo of 3ml synthetine and 2ml syntheselen is getting ridiculous in regards to the amount I sweat. The tren was already bad and I felt lieke I was on dnp some days. Since I added them I can't get dry after a shower and post workout today I was on my computer and sweat was dripping off me and my arms were soaked so I had to put a towel on the desk. It's hot here so everything combined is not pleasant... I struggled today. I have drank about 5 liters of water mixed with EAA's today.

I have just booked a trip away so I will have to come off everything. Not bothered about that but going to load up on mt2 before I go. I have been using it at small doses for a few weeks now. I only have hand luggage so can't take my mt2 away with me. I will be gone for 9 days as I am also going to see my parents.

I will be going out drinking for 4 nights so I am stopping my orals now to give my body a little break. When I get back it will be a detox and back on track. Although I will train when away and won't eat too bad so not much damage will be done.

2moro will likely be a rest day as my body needs it. Even though I have trips planned I still plan to get ripped over the summer. My appetite is back for steak so will be eating them throughout the day with greens and keeping things fairly basic.

 

[psych]

nice man!

 

[montego]

When it rains it pours Only joking but a minor set back. I have mentioned the trapped nerve I get in the past, Anyway I trained calves on Wed night then warmed up my shoulders. 1st exercise I done some db front raises. I lift it up and feel a sharp stabbing pain in my right middle trap. The pain was really bad but stubborn me carries on and moves over to Smith shoulder presses. I do 3 sets of 10kg, 20kg and 30kg a side then I have 2 plates a side. I usually go to about 3 plates per side. I couldn't even lift my right arm with severe pain so I stop being stupid and go home annoyed. I have had it many times and I know the pain can be bad but the injury is 4 days max.

I woke up in severe pain but wanted to train today so figured a pump arm and leg workout. I rotated tri-ceps/bi-ceps then onto hams and quads (literally just ham curls and leg extensions). I ended up having a great workout and it done me good. Most would say you're stupid to train but I know my body so it worked out good. It's still sore now but with the help of the healing peps it should be gone very soon. I jumped the gun with the healing peps simply because of how fast they worked last time. My bi-cep tendon is getting better each day and I trained with no pain today for the first time in months. I 100% know it's due to them as I have had it for ages so I am happy. My lower back is also getting better so more good news. I don't know which is having the most impact but the combo of BPC-157 and TB-500 is gtg for me.

That brings me onto the lr3 and I don't think it mixed evenly. The water doesn't upload in the slin pin fast and takes ages and falls in drops. Anyway I dosed it last night and went full blown hypo post injection. I did think shall I have my cereal ready but it couldn't have been more than 2 mins before I injected to started eating. It was bad. You know the hypo were you are eating and water/sweat is falling from your face into the bowl. I was soaked in sweat and shaking so my bad and that won't happen again. I had two big bowls of Crunch nut corn flakes (about 200g carbs) and staggered over to my bed and lay there until it passed. My bed was soaked when I got up. So becareful when you dose lr3 especially when it's post workout. One benefit is I woke up tighter and fuller though

My pre workout combo of 3ml synthetine and 2ml syntheselen is getting ridiculous in regards to the amount I sweat. The tren was already bad and I felt lieke I was on dnp some days. Since I added them I can't get dry after a shower and post workout today I was on my computer and sweat was dripping off me and my arms were soaked so I had to put a towel on the desk. It's hot here so everything combined is not pleasant... I struggled today. I have drank about 5 liters of water mixed with EAA's today.

I have just booked a trip away so I will have to come off everything. Not bothered about that but going to load up on mt2 before I go. I have been using it at small doses for a few weeks now. I only have hand luggage so can't take my mt2 away with me. I will be gone for 9 days as I am also going to see my parents.

I will be going out drinking for 4 nights so I am stopping my orals now to give my body a little break. When I get back it will be a detox and back on track. Although I will train when away and won't eat too bad so not much damage will be done.

2moro will likely be a rest day as my body needs it. Even though I have trips planned I still plan to get ripped over the summer. My appetite is back for steak so will be eating them throughout the day with greens and keeping things fairly basic.

So. I've been looking into injectable L Carnatine and every thread I see, you're giving out great info lol.

My questions -

Given the need for carbs or exogenous insulin to help drive the Carnatine into the system, have you tried low dose insulin to achieve this in a pre workout setting?

The reason I ask is because I don't have carbs before I train and haven't in quite a while. All of my carbs come post workout (other then when I have ran insulin the last year) . This works really well for me.

But, I've never messed with low dose insulin for fasted cardio like some have and have only used it in the typical pre workout dosing with carbs pre/intra/post. Never pre workout with no carbs.

I've seen 2-3iu suggested with the Carnatine before cardio and was curious if this would translate to pre workout as well....... I know it's a tricky question and of course measures like glucose tabs and such would be needed in case I tried it.

 

[AGGRO]

Have you used more lr3? Results?

 

[Elvia1023]

nice man!

Thank you. I have a lot to update so will do that below.

So. I've been looking into injectable L Carnatine and every thread I see, you're giving out great info lol.

My questions -

Given the need for carbs or exogenous insulin to help drive the Carnatine into the system, have you tried low dose insulin to achieve this in a pre workout setting?

The reason I ask is because I don't have carbs before I train and haven't in quite a while. All of my carbs come post workout (other then when I have ran insulin the last year) . This works really well for me.

But, I've never messed with low dose insulin for fasted cardio like some have and have only used it in the typical pre workout dosing with carbs pre/intra/post. Never pre workout with no carbs.

I've seen 2-3iu suggested with the Carnatine before cardio and was curious if this would translate to pre workout as well....... I know it's a tricky question and of course measures like glucose tabs and such would be needed in case I tried it.

Sorry about the slow reply matey. Firstly I have tried everything you mention. There is some misleading info online which basically states you need an insulin spike for carnitine to work. That is nonsense and it will work with or without slin and/or carbs. Even the oral forms of carnitine with their low absorption rates have been shown to be very effective in numerous studies and they aren't even that great. The difference between oral and inj is night and day imo.

They say to gain the insulin spike needed for it to effectively shuttle the carnitine into the muscle cell you would need 100g sugar. Obviously most are not going to have that especially when cutting. This is were low dosed slin can come into play. Again let me go back it's not needed but for optimal results I would recommend it.

Humalog at 2-3iu could be used but you have to be careful with log when fasted. I can't handle it even at low doses. I prefer humalin-r if I am going to low-no carb it due to it's slower release and slightly longer active life. Regular slin is so much more forgiving than log but either could be good for you just be extra careful and start at 1iu and access and then 2iu. If using regular I like 3-4iu.

Can you not have any carbs? If not this is where amino acids come into play. I should mention leucine elicits a decent insulin response itself and many have even used high doses of that instead of insulin. I personally don't think the insulin response is enough but anything is better than nothing. Anyway my main point is if you consume EAA's and glutamine when the insulin is active it should be more than enough to stop you going hypo without needing to utilize carbs. Glutamine alone is great for doing this but I recommend a full spectrum of aminos to go with that. I would do 20g eaa's and 20g glutamine intra training if you can. I would start drinking them as soon as you inject humalog and if using regular wait a little and do the same.

It goes without saying to have safety measures like the glucose tabs you mentioned but you should not need them if you start at 1iu and move up slowly and intake your aminos when it's active. If you ever add in carbs things can really come to life with higher doses of carnitine and insulin as well. Let me know how you get on with things.

Have you used more lr3? Results?

I have matey. I am disappointed with it to be honest. I got it from peptidetech which are a great company and I have worked for them and used them many times. Peptides are much more durable than people think but I do wonder if mine were damaged. They went through 4 countries to get to me and it took awhile and there was a heat wave in Europe at the time. I used it the other week and it hit me so hard so I was thinking did it not mix properly. But I just dosed a lot of it and ate striaghtafter but I am missing that wow factor. On good lr3 I wake up fuller and tighter. It also drops my blood glucose very fast which this isn't doing (it did once though which is strange). I am on my 2nd vial and will try a new vial soon to see if there is a difference. I am using 200mcg eod and have my only "not clean" food afterwards which right now is about 150g carbs from coco krispies I can't be doing egg whites or almond milk etc so I just have good old fashioned cows milk. After that I also drink about 60g protein from synthepure.

 

[Elvia1023]

I don't know where to start. I went on holiday to Benidorm in Spain. It was crazy and I had a great time. I go 6 months without drinking alcohol all the time now but if I go away I can go overboard. I was having 10-20 double vodka and cokes with 20-30 shots every night. If I go away again I will never drink like that as it destroyed my body. I would get in about 8am and get up about 11am and go out for the day drinking pitchers of pina colada etc. Again I won't have half as much next time but it was good to relax and have fun I just go over the top at times On the last day with no sleep I was a mess and took a bad turn but recovered by the time I had to fly home. I also tried laughing gas for the first time which was amazing I visited my parents in the UK for 4 days afterwards and literally lay in bed the whole time sweating the alcohol out.

I also sprained my wrist and one finger in Benidorm. Added to my 2 bi-cep tendon issues, my trapped nerve in my mid trap and my fucked up lower back I was a walking mess I couldn't close my hand for well over a week so I just trained legs eod when I came back. I started 2iu am/pm of genotrope when I got back to help with the healing. It worked great but I had to drop it 2 days ago as my energy levels were so low.

I have been training around my injuries and trying to be sensible with weights and movements. Things are getting better and better. Everything is good apart from my left bi-cep tendon which is really bad but pushing through. I have trained 5 days out of the last 6 plus fairly high volume most days.

I don't usually care about getting in shape for holidays but I have one booked and my plan is to get as ripped as possible for it. I only have 2.5 weeks left but that is enough time for me. I have already leaned out. When I got back from Benidorm I had lost about 10 pounds and gone softer but I have reversed that. I am pleased my back is better as I have started training abs most days. I am dieting but not gonna lie I can't be bothered doing it the "proper" and what would be the most effective way for me. That would be many small meals throughout the day. My plan is simply not eating much and all clean food and carbs around training. Some meals I just have a steak and nothing else. It's working though. I just need to up my protein and will be receiving new EAA's on Monday (run out) so they will be added immeditely and pretty much drank throughout the day to help maintain muscle mass. I am not too bothered about size as I can get that back later on.

Hormones are just 50mg test p and 40mg tren a with 50mg proviron pre workout. I decided to give my liver a bit of a break so no avar even know I would like to use it. Granted proviron is in there but it's not very toxic. I am also dosing 3ml synthetine and 2ml syntheselen pre workout and it's going great. They are my only "fat burners" in my cycle. I am not a fan of t3, clen etc. DNP is amazing but I don't need it and it's very hot here so I will leave it out. I have also been high dosing synthergine at 3ml twice daily because trust me I needed it. I am looking and feeling good now though so I am pleased. I just hope my bi-cep tendon gets better as it's been really bad and is effecting my training.

Benidorm was crazy and the first time I have been before. On the first night I went to the toilet at about 3am and I come out and there is a show on with everyone circled around. I look over and it's a guy on a segway with a star wars mask on fucking some girl dressed as Princess Leia They have live sex shows in many of the bars. All a bit weird especially when you walk around at 2am outside and there are parents with their kids still out. In the day there are stag/hen do's getting drunk and families on the next table.

Due to my injuries and not being able to train my arms shrunk a bit but seem to be back even though I have only trained them a few times and not like I would like due to my tendon issue. I was tempted to start a little syntherol cycle which I still may do just to give me some added fullness.

So for the next few weeks I am gonna get ripped and will post pics weekly. I had some random ones taken in the gym yesterday so will post them now.

 

[Elvia1023]

I am fairly pleased as I really was a mess the other week. Gonna bring my waist in alot over the next few weeks.

 

[Elvia1023]

I have been training everyday. I will have a short break soon as my energy levels have been really low recently. I struggle to get through most of the day so I know I need to incorporate more rest days or at a minimum lower volume per session. It's hard when you see daily changes but I know that will reverse unless changes are made. I am pushing training though so don't mind the struggle so will go on how I feel each day.

Due to lower energy I changed to 3ml syntheselen and it has helped a lot but I still need to fix the root cause. I think part of it is simply using hormones (tren) and it also being very hot and humid here now.

I went hypo last night after the gym. It was simply due to not having carbs post workout. I could feel it when in the shower and by the time I had dried it come on quickly. It was bad so I will ensure I keep carbs in my post workout meal as my body gets so sensitive after training hard. Today I decided to have a higher carb day mainly in the form of fruit. greek yohgurt and weetabix.

My left bi-cep is still bad but has improved a lot using Voltaren 2% (Diclofenac Sodium) cream twice daily. I am hoping it will be gone in another week. I trained bi-ceps with back last night but kept the db's to only 20 pounds. The one heavy set I done of rows earlier on kicked off the tendon pain so I backed off. I still had a great session. I couldn't press heavy weight either another day for shoulders so repped out a variety of front, side and rear delt movements. I finished that day with 12 sets of vertical leg press. 3 sets with 10-15 sec rest between each and repeated 4 times going up in weight and my arse is still hurting I have been hitting my calves and abs extra hard as well.

Tonight will be calves, hams, chest and tri-ceps. I will see how I am and go from there. Heavy for the lower body movements and probably pump stuff for chest and tri-ceps. Pre workout I will dose 20mg cialis, 50mg proviron, 3ml syntheselen, 2ml synthetine and whatever pre workout I decide to try.

I have swopped over my hormones so 50mg tren a and 40mg test p daily with an added 250mg test c per week. I will lower the test p down (to zero) this week so I am just on tren a, test c and proviron. I may add avar back in for the last 10 days or so before I go away. I can even take avar away with me as I won't be drinking on my holiday so no issues there. After my holiday I will go down to 150mg test only for a break.

I had more pics taken last night. They haven't come out very good but I will post a couple later. Only a few days difference but there have been improvements.

Today is an LR3 day so post workout will be approx 150g carbs from coco pops and milk plus an extra 50g protein from synthepure.

 

[Elvia1023]

I was going to have a break today but decided to train and I am glad I did now. I had a great delts and quads workout. The voltaren gel has helped my left bi-cep tendon even more now. I was amped up to train and decided to go heavy for a change. After warming up I went to smith shoulder presses first which I don't usually do first. Last time it was hurting on 1.5 plates a side so I stopped. I got up to 2.5 plates a side this time and it felt good. I didn't want go overboard but after my hols I will work up to 4+ plates a side for shoulder presses. DB lateral raises hurt so I done my heavy sets on machine lateral raises and they felt great. Wide grip upright rows were also not comfortable so I stopped but cable front raises felt great and I went heavy on those.

For quads after warming up I supersetted leg extensions with leg presses. I used an old school leg press machine. It must be 50+ years old. I will post a pic. I maxed out the plates on that and it felt good. I finished with standing knee raises using a standing leg curl machine backwards and they felt great. Most importantly my arm felt fine post workout and I am hoping it continues to improve.

My calves and hams were sore today from training them yesterday. I started with those two and finished with some chest and tri-ceps. I incorporated some movements you don't see much. Calves went first and was mainly supersetting standing calf raises with horizontal leg press calf presses. I finished with tibialis raises. For hams I started with standing leg curls and proceeded to single stiff leg db deadlifts were I put my head down for every rep. The stretch you get is fantastic and they are the main reason my hams are really bad today. I also done some lying db ham curls on the floor with very slow negatives. I finished with 1 set of machine lying leg curls to failure for high reps. It was mainly pump stuff for chest and tri-ceps due to my arm but it felt good.

I though I had ran out of aminos but I forgot about the My Protein ones I had with caffeine added. They have been in my cupboard for about a year. I don't like caffeine added for obvious reasons. But 2.5 scoops in my intra shake contained 375mg caffeine so I used that instead of a pre workout. It's a good approach as you are constantly topping up energy supply as you train.

I have decided after a break I am going to start an all out get massive log. Literally just go for it. I will keep it very simple but apply everything I know and just mutate My goal for the next few weeks hasn't changed though and I will carry on dropping body fat.

 

[Elvia1023]

Here is the old school leg press machine. If you see the handle with a hook hanging you use that to pick up the silver plates and place them in the machine. It took me ages putting them back at the bottom