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Gotta love the legs

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wolfyEVH

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oracle said:
I do both and i just started working legs but yet mine are coming along pretty good.


do why dont you do regular squats??? because you cant do too much or what?? leave your ego at home
 

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wolfyEVH said:
do why dont you do regular squats??? because you cant do too much or what?? leave your ego at home

lol you really don't know much about how i workout wolfy...it's not about the ego bro...trust me i'm big and strong enough to not have to worry about that part. I only do smith machines now because the YMCA i workout at doesn't have a squat rack. Oh and yes....i still can do alot on the regular squat rack also. ;)
 
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O said:
oh yeah...and for those who don't think smith machines work .... here's my legs. And i just started working them .....

http://www.anasci.org/vB/showthread.php?t=4607&page=1

Oh hey there's my "ego" and i thought i brought it to the gym.


not difficult to get big legs when you're already stocky to begin with now is it?? plus the fact you just started training them recently is making them grow big.......
 

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I don't really think anyone said that smith machine squats are useless and ineffective, just not as effective as regular squats. I think the smith machine will hit the quads just as much, but it doesn't hit the back and abs and the smaller stabilizers as much. The more muscle fibers you can get going at one time, the more growth you're gonna have, it's that simple. I do smith machines sometimes, when I can't get a good spot, but the rest of the time I do free weight squats.

Anyways, legs are looking good oracle, whatever works for you keep doing it until it stops working.
 
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wolfyEVH

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steve0085 said:
I don't really think anyone said that smith machine squats are useless and ineffective, just not as effective as regular squats. I think the smith machine will hit the quads just as much, but it doesn't hit the back and abs and the smaller stabilizers as much. The more muscle fibers you can get going at one time, the more growth you're gonna have, it's that simple. I do smith machines sometimes, when I can't get a good spot, but the rest of the time I do free weight squats.

Anyways, legs are looking good oracle, whatever works for you keep doing it until it stops working.


exactly....smith machines will work....but can't put a patch on regular squats
 

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wolfyEVH said:
not difficult to get big legs when you're already stocky to begin with now is it?? plus the fact you just started training them recently is making them grow big.......

you never seem to amaze me when you look for the negatives. lol. Actually there's alot of "stocky" guys who work legs but for some reason just can't get them to grow. hmmm.....and true they are responding well because they are now being worked....but hmmm....still remains the fact that smith machines "work".

BUT since you want to talk about smith machines are blah blah blah....and how you should leave your ego out of the gym....blah blah blah....how come i don't use the normal squat rack because "i might not be able to do as much" blah blah blah....how about some supporting pics of "YOURS" just to show the rest of the kiddies how

1. hard work and eating get's "you" big
2. to leave the ego at home and what it does for the amount of weight you can handle
3. and the results of working the squat rack and not the smith machine to get bigger legs.
 
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O said:
you never seem to amaze me when you look for the negatives. lol. Actually there's alot of "stocky" guys who work legs but for some reason just can't get them to grow. hmmm.....and true they are responding well because they are now being worked....but hmmm....still remains the fact that smith machines "work".

BUT since you want to talk about smith machines are blah blah blah....and how you should leave your ego out of the gym....blah blah blah....how come i don't use the normal squat rack because "i might not be able to do as much" blah blah blah....how about some supporting pics of "YOURS" just to show the rest of the kiddies how

1. hard work and eating get's "you" big
2. to leave the ego at home and what it does for the amount of weight you can handle
3. and the results of working the squat rack and not the smith machine to get bigger legs.

lol...this post "O" just proves you have an ego.........

1. i dont even have a perfect diet, but i'm not complaining on about the gains i get on cycle because i know what its from
2. I do leave my ego at home......i can max about 400 on squat....i have no problems with what my max lifts, as long as i like the way i'm looking/gaining
3. results on the squat rack are obviously going to be better than on the smith machine. Its much more difficult and you're working a long more of your body, not just your quads....smith machine, all you have to do is get under and push....thats it.....not having to worry about falling side to side or forward and backward......

i have no idea how you workout "O".....whatever works for you, stick with.....I was just asking a simple question, why you're preaching about the smith machine, and why you dont do regular squats.......

the only thing i can deduce is that you're a hardass with an ego....especially at the previous post towards me......i wasnt dissing you at all......just asking a question bro.....no need to be a dickhead about it
 

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wolfyEVH said:
the only thing i can deduce is that you're a hardass with an ego....especially at the previous post towards me......i wasnt dissing you at all......just asking a question bro.....no need to be a dickhead about it

LoL everyone has an "ego" and it's a good thing for me that i have broad shoulders to carry around such a "big ego". Now that was egotistical. As far as the posts well you did say "why don't i do regular squats...afraid that i can't do as much? and to leave my "ego" at the door. Hmmm.....I'm not a hardass but just like in the jayson thread you got on him about what gains he got. Obviously offending him too. He called you out with where's your "PICS" and i'm just doing the same.
 
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O said:
LoL everyone has an "ego" and it's a good thing for me that i have broad shoulders to carry around such a "big ego". Now that was egotistical. As far as the posts well you did say "why don't i do regular squats...afraid that i can't do as much? and to leave my "ego" at the door. Hmmm.....I'm not a hardass but just like in the jayson thread you got on him about what gains he got. Obviously offending him too. He called you out with where's your "PICS" and i'm just doing the same.


lol.....because i'm the only one who got on jayson because of his cycle (give me a break)......i'll post my pics (if i ever get any) when i feel like it.....i never said i was the best lookin guy on this board.......far from it......and mind you not everyone on here has put up their pictures.......how was i to know that you didnt have a squat rack at your gym?!?!? every YMCA i've been to has one so I kinda figured yours would as well.......

of course i'm gonna get on someone about an all oral cycle....did you not see the post DR put up about we possibly start banning people who openly admit to cycling poorly like that??!?! guess not.........and of course i'm gonna tell people that the regular squat is far more effective than smith machine......i never said smith machine does not work. I'm just looking out for the guys on here and tryin to give them the proper advice/critiques on their workouts and cycle. Thats what a MOD and the VETS on here do. Help one another out to make the most of their cycle. But i'm done with all this bullshit...if you need to get the last word in, be my guest. Maybe us MODS won't offer any type of advice to you guys because we obviously know nothing.
 

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wolfyEVH said:
lol.....because i'm the only one who got on jayson because of his cycle (give me a break)......i'll post my pics (if i ever get any) when i feel like it.....i never said i was the best lookin guy on this board.......far from it......and mind you not everyone on here has put up their pictures.......how was i to know that you didnt have a squat rack at your gym?!?!? every YMCA i've been to has one so I kinda figured yours would as well.......

of course i'm gonna get on someone about an all oral cycle....did you not see the post DR put up about we possibly start banning people who openly admit to cycling poorly like that??!?! guess not.........and of course i'm gonna tell people that the regular squat is far more effective than smith machine......i never said smith machine does not work. I'm just looking out for the guys on here and tryin to give them the proper advice/critiques on their workouts and cycle. Thats what a MOD and the VETS on here do. Help one another out to make the most of their cycle. But i'm done with all this bullshit...if you need to get the last word in, be my guest. Maybe us MODS won't offer any type of advice to you guys because we obviously know nothing.

Temper Temper....I NEVER said you didn't know anything? In fact i REGARD YOU AS ONE OF THE BEST ADVISERS ON THIS BOARD. Not always the best with words however. As far as the post about banning people about "improper" cycling i did not read it..however i think it would be a bad thing to do because it's good to show how improper cycling can be bad and when other people read how actually to do it then it helps out more. Here's my last 2cc's on the subject. YES your correct that Free Squatting is more beneficial as a whole than a smith machine but if done right can be just as effective as the latter
 
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wolfyEVH

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O said:
Yeah but that's the point of forums too...it's a way of "researching" for answers. Yes there are some that don't want to "google" and find an answer so they turn to those who can give an exact answer.


if they're willing to listen