Concreteguy: Slin Diet

[speeder]

listen.....slin is not as scary or as confusing as everyone thinks....

there is NO right way and NO wrong way to use it....

there is NO MAGIC way....

if you start going hypo, you will feel it, don't panic...but don't wait
either....get some sugar inside you as fast as possible...

a few protocols "people" utilize are this...
(amounts will vary, as some are more sensitive)

-Xamount ui pre wo, with pre workout meal. (staying lean/ dieting)
-Xamount ui twice daily with your largest meals, wo days only. (mass gaining)
-Xamount ui post wo, with post meal, (depending on size of meal
can be used while dieting or mass phase)....

this is just a few SAFER protocols you can try....see what you like...

i like 6 to 8iu pre training....insane pumps...and stays active if you
can get that post training meal in fast enough...

i cant stand this people that complicate shit.....ITS NOT COMPLICATED

tenny, don't crucify me, as I'm not complicating this, lol but which slin do you prefer to use pre-training? R or Log?

 

[tenny]

tenny, don't crucify me, as I'm not complicating this, lol but which slin do you prefer to use pre-training? R or Log?

R is much safer.....easier....once you get your timing down
with R its no fail...

Log presents too much risk (for me)...some like it better...
some like 0 to 60 2.3 secs......I like to ride in comfort...

and like I said....if you quickly get that second meal in post
training....its almost a perfect combo...

15 years ago or so I could do 20 to 25iu Log no problem...
but would do POST training...I did not like the idea of the slin
to dictate my workouts...duration, ect....I found myself constantly
worrying about getting out of the gym and eating....basically kept
me in fear pinned Log pre wo.....post worked better for me....

 

[Sandpig]

Ok so I've used R before and now I'm running it again.

I've pretty much got my protocol down. Especially around the workout.

Never had a problem until yesterday and again today.

Seems like I'm getting that second R spike later than I have in the past. About 3.5 hours.
And even though I've had plenty of carbs in me over the previous three hours, I am going hypo.

I consume my carbs over a 2.5 hour window and that has always worked until now.

Could there be a reason why this has changed?

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[tenny]

Ok so I've used R before and now I'm running it again.

I've pretty much got my protocol down. Especially around the workout.

Never had a problem until yesterday and again today.

Seems like I'm getting that second R spike later than I have in the past. About 3.5 hours.
And even though I've had plenty of carbs in me over the previous three hours, I am going hypo.

I consume my carbs over a 2.5 hour window and that has always worked until now.

Could there be a reason why this has changed?

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yep....its gonna change on you from time to time.....

how much are you taking...???
and how long before training...???
and when is the pre meal introduced...??

 

[tenny]

pre train slin meal...

 

[Sandpig]

15 iu
Following the Mike Arnold protocol

45 minutes before training

The first meal/drink is about 20 minutes after the injection

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[tenny]

15 iu
Following the Mike Arnold protocol

45 minutes before training

The first meal/drink is about 20 minutes after the injection

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I would PM Mike then....if you follow him

 

[IRONFIST]

thread is getting good again. thanks for sharing the info guys!!!

tenny what is that meal? cant tell if its meatloaf or french toast or something else lol?

 

[tenny]

thread is getting good again. thanks for sharing the info guys!!!

tenny what is that meal? cant tell if its meatloaf or french toast or something else lol?

LOL.....freaaaaaanch toast

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6 whole eggs in those bad boys though

 

[speeder]

Does anyone of our experts know what the pro's are really doing to get so huge. It would seam that everyone is of the mind that there is nothing new to talk about when it comes to insulin but no one has mentioned what it is, these REALLY big guys are doing.
Why is that? It's out there and no big secret.

What is it worth to you none experts to learn how to get bigger than you could ever get? You would be at a ridiculously low level of risk compared to anything you have read in this thread and you could do this running a fraction of the gear you would expect to have to run. It's the advice that absolutely none of the boyz in the know want out of the bag. It's the advice that some of us here don't deserve to even have.

The shame of it is it's the same hand full of guys that will jump on in with the "I wouldn't ever do this because it's bad for you insulin sensitivity", "I would never do this because I thought about it and figured it all out in my mind and it won't work". It's the single reason over 80% of these new pro's blow up as soon as they get their card. Someone whispers in there ear because they became a member of the club.

Can any of our experts share this with the members? The reason I ask is if I'm going to dump the bucket on something that can single handedly pound muscle on every one of you and piss off many in the industry, I want to take complete responsibility for it. The information I'm prepared to let out isn't mine. I was told this by a source that can't be questioned. This information isn't about being healthy or happy or feeling just right as your walking down the street. It's extreme muscle building and there is a tax to be paid on everything. I can also explain ways to govern this down to the real world for guys that want to just have fun and be fucking jacked out the ass.

The problem is with all the chefs in the kitchen the pizza just ain't going to get cooked.

I walked away from this because it became something I wanted no parts of. I'm here to share and have fun. God knows I have been around the block a few times. I have been answering many of your PMs and will continue if the need to leave comes up again. But most important K1 has assured me that will not happen again. Nore will I reach over the fence in the other direction either.

So my question stands. Does any of our experts here know what I'm talking about and would like to share?

CG

CG, am still interested in what you're referring to here..

guys please don't fight lol us younger guys to this game love you all!

 

[speeder]

LOL.....freaaaaaanch toast

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6 whole eggs in those bad boys though

tenny, I admittedly have never used insulin and am not super well-versed with it, and really appreciate you vets sharing your knowledge about this.

You made your pre-training French toast meal with 6 whole eggs, which is roughly 30g of fat or so.

So all these years guys who have been saying keep dietary fat intake as low as possible while slin is active, you don't buy that?

 

[tenny]

tenny, I admittedly have never used insulin and am not super well-versed with it, and really appreciate you vets sharing your knowledge about this.

You made your pre-training French toast meal with 6 whole eggs, which is roughly 30g of fat or so.

So all these years guys who have been saying keep dietary fat intake as low as possible while slin is active, you don't buy that?

lol....that is pretty low....

no different than a couple spoons of PB....
or a couple spoons of evoo in your shake...

contest dieting.....I may lower that a bit....
but then again, I would use slin for precontest dieting..

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[Sandpig]

LOL.....freaaaaaanch toast

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6 whole eggs in those bad boys though

So what you eat before pinning plays a part in covering your carb needs?

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[Sandpig]

tenny, I admittedly have never used insulin and am not super well-versed with it, and really appreciate you vets sharing your knowledge about this.

You made your pre-training French toast meal with 6 whole eggs, which is roughly 30g of fat or so.

So all these years guys who have been saying keep dietary fat intake as low as possible while slin is active, you don't buy that?

Palumbo admits that he was the one who mistakingly started the no fat rumor.

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[tenny]

So what you eat before pinning plays a part in covering your carb needs?

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yes sir.....

my post meal was 1 pound of berries and 5 egg whites, with
8oz OJ....now normally I take that 45 minutes after the pre meal...
but today I didn't wait for this meal....and went straight to the gym..
and the shake post....which works just as well...

the only real difference with R and Log is the on set....
both last relatively the same.....6 to 8 vs 10 to 12....
but its the onset....10 to 15 minutes vs 45 to a hour...

big difference in the speed in that sense

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[Sandpig]

Big thanks

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[speeder]

Concreteguy,

I saw you posted this on PM in the 90's thread:

"Incredible conditioning can be achieved using the correct amounts of Lantus 24 hour insulin, balanced against an >>almost<< keto diet and bcaa's. For the pro's there are zero trade offs when getting absolutely ripped to the bone. You can literally diet into a show if you know how to do this. The onset of Lantus is so slow it allows your body to process proteins into carbohydrates.

Lantus + Anadrol, S-drol are wonderful loading components. These alone will make guys super human looking with skin stretching fullness.

But what do I know....lol"


CG


Would you be willing to go more into this? I know I'm far from the only guy here who would be very interested to hear your take on it..
thanks,

CG, see, Tenny and you both agree on something (OJ!) lol...

also, when you get a chance, you made a post about lantus over at PM, and I was wondering if you would go into more depth on it. I quoted it above.

 

[tenny]

CG, see, Tenny and you both agree on something (OJ!) lol...

also, when you get a chance, you made a post about lantus over at PM, and I was wondering if you would go into more depth on it. I quoted it above.

only difference with lantus....is that's its a 24 slin....

but the onset is too unpredictable.....anywhere from 30 mins
to 4 hours....

not the kind of roulette I wanna play...

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[speeder]

only difference with lantus....is that's its a 24 slin....

but the onset is too unpredictable.....anywhere from 30 mins
to 4 hours....

not the kind of roulette I wanna play...

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thanks,

didn't realize the onset varied so much with lantus..

however, since it's so long-acting, wouldn't the onset not be too "strong" ? Or is it when it comes to slin, when it hits you, it hits you, regardless of the type?

 

[K1]

Thread is back on track...Markyboy, make sure you're taking notes man, want to see a log w/pics coming from you here soon